Saturday, August 3, 2013

Point 15,16,17: "Count differ in Bible?"

Point No. 15 -  It is mentioned in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.1, and Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.6, the context that… ‘When the people returned from exile, from Babylon, when king Nebucheldeser of Babylon, when he released the men from Israel, they came back from captivity’ - and the list of the people are given. The list is given in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.2 to 63, and Nehemiah Ch. No.7, Verse No.7 up to 65; the list is given with the names as well as number of people released. In these 60 Verses there are no less than 18 times - the name is exactly the same but the number is different. There are no less than 18 contradictions in less than 60 Verses, of these two Chapters. This is the list - I don’t have time to run through the list - There are no less than 18 different contradictions in less than 60 Verses.
Point No. 16 - Further it is mentioned in Ezra, Ch. No.2 Verse No.64 that… ‘The total congregation, if you add up… if you add up, it comes to 42,360.’ And if you read in Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.66, there also the total is the same 42,360. But if you add up all these verses - which I had to do my homework - this is the list of Ezra… this is the list of Nehemiah. Ezra Ch. No 2, Nehemiah  Ch. No 7 - If you add up - I had to do my homework…if you add up, Ezra Ch. No. 2 - It does not come to 42,360 - it comes to 29,818. And if you add up Nehemiah, Ch. No. 7, even then it does not come to 42,360 - It comes to 31,089. The author of the Bible, presumed to be ‘Almighty God’, does not know simple addition. If you give this problem, even to a person who has passed elementary school, he will be able to get the right answer. If you add up all the 60 Verses, it is so easy. Almighty God did not know adding –Nauzubillah… if we presume, that this is the word of God.
Point No. 17 - Further, if we read, in Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it says…There were 200 singing men and women - Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 67…‘There were 245 singing men and women.’ Were they 200 - or were they 245 singing men and women? Context is the same - A mathematical contradiction.


Reply:
1) Point 15 , Mr Scientific Naaik says, Numbers for some groups are different, I admit, yes, It is. It comes under Ketuvim(Scriptwriters or writters).  
Some numbers have been altered, but the total count are same as 42,360. This is counted as the part of History.  
    There are mainly 3 parts for Hebrew bible or Tanakh (Old testament). 

  • Torah(Teaching or Laws) : Revealed by G-d to Moses, places sinai, tebernacle etc
  • Nevi'im(The prophets) : The visions, miracles, dreams, prophecies of Prophets
  • Ketuvim(The writings) : The History gathered about Jews & the chronicles of Kings.
     Thus the part Mr Zakir mentioned comes under Ketuvim. Thus the history were referred from many scriptures and the authenticity verified. Ezra & Nehemiah, the authors are not the prophets, they were Jewish priests who collected the data and scripted it. 
          Do you think the Bible Authenticators are just dump people which cannot Identify these. It was already noted and they added as it was with out any alteration, else they can easily change 856 to 765 to make the numbers to look same.
Mr Scientific Naaik says " Kevitum's author is G-D of Jews & Christians", Pathetically he failed again by exposing his blunders of knowledge on Bible and his authenticity.





2) Point  16, This is another blunder , Scientific Naaik is pathetically just a blunder.
 Refer the two Ezra 2:1-70Nehemiah 7:1-70.  

  • You can find the numbers for each group and numberless groups. 
  • So how come Zakir predicts the numbers of people prescribed with out number?
  • Also zakir summed result is 31089 less than in bible 42360, So it proves perfectly that zakir predicts the numberless groups to 0, Mathematical error of Zakir! 
3) See the point 1, perfectly says no historical scripts are exactly the copy of other, minor changes will be there. If not, now a days, then the authenticator will surely check for Fabricational tests. 



Foot Note Point 15: 
Bible is not entirely a scriptures just G-D came down and handed over. It has miraculous meanings and indications to Future. (G-D of Israel & Christians, is not merely a Book seller. Some people who are brainless will claim that we have exact copy of book in Heaven, which is handed over to a man who claims himself as prophet).

So Mr Scientific Blunder Naaik, please try to to avoid fabricated lies along with the Questions.


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