Jeremiah 19:9
Some Muslims examine, "Jeremiah 19:9", cut out the verse and try to speculate negative view on G-d of Israel.
Jeremiah 19:9 - "I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them.’"
Claim against G-d by Bible criticizers (especially Muslims): Highlighted part is "eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another flesh", G-d Almighty is forcefully make them to eat their own sons and daughters.
Common Way of Muslim study, on the Bible is search, some words* and take out the verse and show you "This is so Evil, your Bible is corrupted, Or it is not G-ds Word Or there by claims G-d of Bible is Evil." (This claim have a second part)
The Peculiarity of Holy Bible is that it has amazing continuity, linkage between past and future, prophecies and fulfillment of Prophecies.
Cross-references in the Bible:
Chris Harrison, the creator, explains: "Different colors are used for various arc lengths, creating a rainbow like effect. The bar graph running along the bottom shows every chapter in the Bible and their respective lengths (in verses). Books alternate in color between white and light gray."
There for When you read Bible, it should be a way that you must link these much cross references (As shown above) to understand the plan of G-d. In my experience, Bible reading is a boost to activate your intellectual thinking and neuron activity of your brain.
A cipher, G-d won't do any thing with out cause. We are not much matured to think and act in a way like G-d does. Even though, G-d tried to make simple by showing miraculous prophecies in related to the course of History through Bible.
There fore when you read Bible versus, at-least understand the context, with out just omitting the entire meaning from the versus. So Link versus, to context, to chapter, to era of script, to entire BIBLE. But with common intelligence, human can at-least catch the box, meaning to the context.
So come back to Jeremiah 19:9, sorry! Jeremiah 19!
Lets look in to the entire Passage:
1This is what the Lord says: “Go and buy a clay jar from a potter. Take along some of the elders of the people and of the priests 2 and go out to the Valley of Ben Hinnom, near the entrance of the Potsherd Gate. There proclaim the words I tell you, 3 and say, ‘Hear the word of the Lord, you kings of Judah and people of Jerusalem. This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Listen! I am going to bring a disaster on this place that will make the ears of everyone who hears of it tingle. 4 For they have forsaken me and made this a place of foreign gods; they have burned incense in it to gods that neither they nor their ancestors nor the kings of Judah ever knew, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5 They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind. 6 So beware, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when people will no longer call this place Topheth or the Valley of Ben Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter.
7 “‘In this place I will ruin the plans of Judah and Jerusalem. I will make them fall by the sword before their enemies, at the hands of those who want to kill them, and I will give their carcasses as food to the birds and the wild animals. 8 I will devastate this city and make it an object of horror and scorn; all who pass by will be appalled and will scoff because of all its wounds. 9 I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them.’
10 “Then break the jar while those who go with you are watching, 11 and say to them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty says: I will smash this nation and this city just as this potter’s jar is smashed and cannot be repaired. They will bury the dead in Topheth until there is no more room. 12 This is what I will do to this place and to those who live here, declares the Lord. I will make this city like Topheth. 13 The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.’”
For example,
Genesis 3:14: "So the LORD God said to the serpent, 'Because you have done this, Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.".[ Eating dust is a Hebrew idiom signifying humiliation and defeat]
Psalm 72:9 -"The desert tribes will bow before him and his enemies will lick the dust."
Micah 7:17- "They will lick dust like a snake, like creatures that crawl on the ground. They will come trembling out of their dens; they will turn in fear to the LORD our God and will be afraid of you."
Like Wise eat each other, cannot be the same to visualize like to cannibals. It signifies that the people will suffer in Hell (gehenna), they will loose all the morality, they will be worse than animals. As we see the Topheth is the hell, because of innocent children where sacrificed (burning) to the Baal & Molech. So What do the criticizers expect in HELL? Peace and Harmony with fellow beings?
Muslim criticizer 2nd part, "See our quran and you can't see a verse like this, 'eat one another flesh' ".
Reply:
Yes, Same sort of words cannot be found, but Can you compare a Quran With Holy Bible? Never!!
Quran Lack:
Present in Quran:
There for Comparing the Holy Bible with quarn is utter non-sense. So please don't ever do this!
Now see Curse on Jerusalem (Filled with More than 80%, pseudo-god worshipers) - Jeremiah 19:13 The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.’ - [star on the roof, star & moon worshipers].
Next On Star Worshipers & Islam
Some Muslims examine, "Jeremiah 19:9", cut out the verse and try to speculate negative view on G-d of Israel.
Jeremiah 19:9 - "I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them.’"
Claim against G-d by Bible criticizers (especially Muslims): Highlighted part is "eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another flesh", G-d Almighty is forcefully make them to eat their own sons and daughters.
Common Way of Muslim study, on the Bible is search, some words* and take out the verse and show you "This is so Evil, your Bible is corrupted, Or it is not G-ds Word Or there by claims G-d of Bible is Evil." (This claim have a second part)
The Peculiarity of Holy Bible is that it has amazing continuity, linkage between past and future, prophecies and fulfillment of Prophecies.
Cross-references in the Bible:
Chris Harrison, the creator, explains: "Different colors are used for various arc lengths, creating a rainbow like effect. The bar graph running along the bottom shows every chapter in the Bible and their respective lengths (in verses). Books alternate in color between white and light gray."
There for When you read Bible, it should be a way that you must link these much cross references (As shown above) to understand the plan of G-d. In my experience, Bible reading is a boost to activate your intellectual thinking and neuron activity of your brain.
A cipher, G-d won't do any thing with out cause. We are not much matured to think and act in a way like G-d does. Even though, G-d tried to make simple by showing miraculous prophecies in related to the course of History through Bible.
There fore when you read Bible versus, at-least understand the context, with out just omitting the entire meaning from the versus. So Link versus, to context, to chapter, to era of script, to entire BIBLE. But with common intelligence, human can at-least catch the box, meaning to the context.
So come back to Jeremiah 19:9, sorry! Jeremiah 19!
- Which is this place?
- What does the Jeremiah 19 says, why does G-d had cursed the people to starvation, causing themselves to eat one another?
- Is this curse still exist? Is that people are still in the city? Who are the enemies of the cursed sons & daughters of G-d?
Lets look in to the entire Passage:
1This is what the Lord says: “Go and buy a clay jar from a potter. Take along some of the elders of the people and of the priests 2 and go out to the Valley of Ben Hinnom, near the entrance of the Potsherd Gate. There proclaim the words I tell you, 3 and say, ‘Hear the word of the Lord, you kings of Judah and people of Jerusalem. This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Listen! I am going to bring a disaster on this place that will make the ears of everyone who hears of it tingle. 4 For they have forsaken me and made this a place of foreign gods; they have burned incense in it to gods that neither they nor their ancestors nor the kings of Judah ever knew, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5 They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind. 6 So beware, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when people will no longer call this place Topheth or the Valley of Ben Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter.
7 “‘In this place I will ruin the plans of Judah and Jerusalem. I will make them fall by the sword before their enemies, at the hands of those who want to kill them, and I will give their carcasses as food to the birds and the wild animals. 8 I will devastate this city and make it an object of horror and scorn; all who pass by will be appalled and will scoff because of all its wounds. 9 I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another’s flesh because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them.’
10 “Then break the jar while those who go with you are watching, 11 and say to them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty says: I will smash this nation and this city just as this potter’s jar is smashed and cannot be repaired. They will bury the dead in Topheth until there is no more room. 12 This is what I will do to this place and to those who live here, declares the Lord. I will make this city like Topheth. 13 The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.’”
- Topheth, Valley of Ben Hinnom & in relation with Jerusalem. Narrow ravine located in Jerusalem, running south from the Jaffa Gate on the west side of the Old City, then eastward along the south side of Mount Zion, until it meets the Kidron Valley which separates the Temple Mount from the Mount of Olives on the east side of the city
- The People were not just sinners, Not only build high places to BAAL, but also they had sacrificed children to Baal & worshiped stars , which made the G-d's wrath against his Sons & daughters & to destroy Topheth. Topheth in Bible & Real History, A region outside Jerusalem where children were sacrificed (1 Kings 11:8 , Jeremiah 7:31-32; Jeremiah 19:6, Jeremiah 19:11-14), the god of the Ammonites (see 1 Kings 11:8). Thus it was a place of burning.
- The curse still exist, now the place topheth, the people of Judah turned the Hinnom Valley into the city dump where garbage and anything deemed unclean (including the bodies of executed criminals) was incinerated (As G-d said in Jeremiah 19). For that purpose, a fire was kept constantly burning there. Even though it was no longer used for evil worship, with all the filth and thick smoke it remained a very dark and dreary place. The Hebrew name Hinnom when translated into Greek is gehenna, from which the word and popular concept of hell originated in Jewish culture. By the time of Jesus Christ, the deep, constantly-burning Valley of Hinnom was also known as the Valley of Gehenna, or Hell, and was thought of as the place "down there" (i.e. in the valley) where the wicked would eventually be cast into the flames for destruction.
For example,
Genesis 3:14: "So the LORD God said to the serpent, 'Because you have done this, Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.".[ Eating dust is a Hebrew idiom signifying humiliation and defeat]
Psalm 72:9 -"The desert tribes will bow before him and his enemies will lick the dust."
Micah 7:17- "They will lick dust like a snake, like creatures that crawl on the ground. They will come trembling out of their dens; they will turn in fear to the LORD our God and will be afraid of you."
Like Wise eat each other, cannot be the same to visualize like to cannibals. It signifies that the people will suffer in Hell (gehenna), they will loose all the morality, they will be worse than animals. As we see the Topheth is the hell, because of innocent children where sacrificed (burning) to the Baal & Molech. So What do the criticizers expect in HELL? Peace and Harmony with fellow beings?
Muslim criticizer 2nd part, "See our quran and you can't see a verse like this, 'eat one another flesh' ".
Reply:
Yes, Same sort of words cannot be found, but Can you compare a Quran With Holy Bible? Never!!
Quran Lack:
- No prophecies, which had fulfilled.
- No contexts, no references (It needs Hadits).
- No Valid History, Many Historical Faults (For Eg: Alexander the great was a Muslim! Funny!)
- No Valid Historical characters Proven (For Eg: Musa as Isa's uncle)
- No Miracles of the one said to be great prophet.
- No Revelation of Islamic god. Allah is Arabic word of god, Never revealed Identity!
Present in Quran:
- Racism- based on religion, salvation not on faith, only by conversion to Islam
- Racism- Non-Muslims are sub-humans Quran 7:194 & many places says non-Muslims are slaves to Muslims
- Contents are scratched versus from Hadits. If you want to understand WHEN? WHERE? WHO? WHY? HOW? Hadits are only source.
- Illogical science (For Eg: Sun sets in Muddy spring)
- So on.
There for Comparing the Holy Bible with quarn is utter non-sense. So please don't ever do this!
Now see Curse on Jerusalem (Filled with More than 80%, pseudo-god worshipers) - Jeremiah 19:13 The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.’ - [star on the roof, star & moon worshipers].
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