Does Arabs & Muhammad came from Ismail?

Is Arabs Originated from Ismail?

Ishmael studied Arabic from Arabs & married from Arabs(Jurhum), they are Idolaters & Ishmael dissolved with them. This means Arabs where already before Ismail & Abraham. 

Refer- Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583: "... The child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up and learnt Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them. ..."

Ibn Ishaq, refers to people who were not descendants of Abraham as Arabs: “‘Ad b. ‘Aus b. Iram b. Sam b. Nuh and Thamud and Jadis the two sons of Abir b. Iram b. Sam b. Nuh and Tasm and Imlaq and Umaym the sons of Lawidh b. Sam b. Nuh are all Arabs.”  ( “The life of Muhammad”, p. 4)

Ibn Ishaq talks of the descendants of Ishmael being a minority spread out among the Arabs

“Then God multiplied the offspring of Ishmael in Mecca and their uncles from Jurhum were rulers of the temple and judges in Mecca.  The sons of Ishmael did not dispute their authority because of their ties of kindred and their respect for the sanctuary lest there should be quarrelling or fighting therein.  When Mecca became too confined for the sons of Ishmael they spread abroad in the land, and whenever they had to fight a people, God gave them the victory through their religion and they subdued them.” (“The life of Muhammad”, p. 46)

Thus we can say that Arabs are not descendants of Ismail, but some arabs can be Ismailites. 

Is Muhammad Genealogy Fabricated?

Muhammad says “Gabriel has informed me that I belong to Mudar.” (Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, Volume I, p. 4),

It shows proof of Muhammad was not aware of his lineage, as like Jews , saving chronology was not part of culture of Arabs.

Main genealogies of Muhammad - 

Genealogies of Muhammad traced backed in sirats up to Adnan is some what acceptable, because all are saying in common & Islamic sources claim that Adnan was a Ismailite, So here I want to inspect from Adnan to Ismail.  

Syed Yusf   > Adnan <<  <<  <<  Kedar << Isma'il

Ibn Hisham > Adnan << Udad <<  Muqawwam <<  Nahur <<  Tayrah << Ya'rub << Yashjub <<  Nabit << Isma'il

{Another Imam’s    > Adnan << Adad <<  Zayd << Yaqdud << Al Muqawwam << Al Yasa' << Nabit << Kedar << Ismail}

Major Issues

1)     Nabit & Kedar are two different sons of Ishmael.

       Mother line of Muhammad was mentioned in another way- [Aminah - Wahab - Abd Manaf - Zuhrah - Kilab, same as the Kilab in Muhammad's side]- which never going to meet the Nabit & Kedar line which is parallel.

2)     Adnan was lived nearly ~400 BC, Ismail was lived nearly  ~1800 BC, so about 1400 years of black out was just filled with, 1 & 7 names

•  1 from Sayed Yusuf > to Kedar
•  7 from Ibn Hisham (Derived from Ibin Ishaq) > to Elder one Nabit.

So take Ibn Hisham first (who took from of Ibn Ishaq)

So 7 generations for 1400 years means, Only One name for 200 years? Unbelievable!
Usually Arabs marry early , at average age of 25-30 years they will have an offspring, Ishmael lived for 130 years.

At least - an authentic lineage should have minimum 3 for 100 years.

There fore,
14*3 = 42 generation’s minimum should be specified between Adnan & Ismail.

Again at least, 14*2 = 28 should be there (Father line average age of 50)! Else it is difficult to keep up the records of generations to pass down. This makes the authenticity of only 7 names instead of 28 cannot be acceptable.

3)     Ismail settled in Paran according to Bible, also married an Egyptian women. So Elder Sons, Nabit (Kedar too) can never should be in the line of Muhammad.
Why because, Islamic sources provides Ismail married - Ra'la - a Jurhumite & settled in mecca.

According to Life of Muhammad (Sirat by Ibn Ishaq) “Isma'il b. Ibrahim begat twelve sons: Nabit the elder, Qaydhar, Adhbul, Mabsha, Misma,Mashi, Dimma, Adhr, Tayma, Yatur, Nabish, Qaydhuma. Their mother was Ra'la d. Mudad b."Amr al-Jurhumi” (Page 3-4)
Bible associate history, more than the unproved & contradictory history of Islamic sources. So Muslims defending on, Ismail settled in paran & married Egyptians & have offspring  there is by saying “Bible is corrupt”, is just pointless.

Paran: South west of Canaan (Current Israel)

Numbers 13:1-3 "And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, "Send men to spy out the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the children of Israel; from each tribe of their fathers you shall send a man, every one a leader among them." So Moses sent them from the Wilderness of Paran according to the command of the Lord, all of them men who were heads of the children of Israel."

Numbers 13: 25-26 Forty days later, they came back from exploring the land. They came back to Moses, Aaron, and the whole community of Israel at Kadesh in the Desert of Paran.

Here You can see Paran will be around 10-15 days travel 'to' Canaan(Israel).
☞  Can any one travel to Paran ( if it is) in Saudi Arabia from Canaan(Israel) with in 10-15 days? (Dated 1500 BC)

☞   If Not, then Paran & Sinai in Arabian peninsula is another fabrication.

 

5)     Another Imam’s line (3rd) extends to kedar, will increase the head ache of Muslims. Which again proves, ISMAIL is not the FATHER of MUHAMMAD. 

6) Jews authenticated by their 2 types of genealogy [one kept in temple - descending & other kept with them - ascending]. Jews keep genealogy as more important than their lives. This will authenticate them among the part of Israel. 
But Arabs doesn't have any sort of keeping genealogy then how & what is the source for genealogy of Muhammad - which was written by Ishaq?

Conclusion:

So it is crystal clear that Muhammad Genealogy was traced back from Adnan is Just a MYTH or a FABRICATION.

Note:
Above was written based on the, biological father of Muhammad is Abdhullah, but unfortunately, hadits flash light on the Muhammad's birth, leads us to a conclusion that Muhammad's father - Abdhullah bin Abdul-muttalib died 3-4 years before birth of  muhammad. Which makes Muhammad with unknown father. See the video below.

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Allah or Satan

Quran explains, Who is allah,  matching to satan?

Character	Allah	Satan
(1) Who Invites People to Hell?	Surah 28: 41	Surah 31: 21
(2) Who Makes Unbelievers Deeds Appear Fair to Them?	Surah 27:4	Surah 6: 43, 29: 38
(3) Who Drives/Leads Unbelievers to Hell?	Surah 19: 86, 4: 169	Surah 22:4
(4) Who Comes to Unbelievers from Behind?	Surah 85: 19-20	Surah 7: 17
(5) Who Leads Unbelievers Astray?	Surah 4: 143	Surah 36: 62, 4: 120
(6) Who Encompasses Unbelievers?	Surah 2: 19	Surah 29: 54
(7) Who Makes Unbelievers Plot?	Surah 6:123	Surah 4: 76
(8) Who frightens people ?	Surah 3: 151	Surah 3: 175
(9) Who Makes Muslims Forget?	Surah 74:56	Surah 6:68
(10) Who allows & command Shameful and Wrong deeds & sins?	Surah 53: 32	Surah 24:21
(11) Who Changes or Fails in their Words?	Surah 17: 86	Surah 14:22

Can satan cast away satan?
Mathew 12:26 " And if Satan is casting out Satan, he is divided and fighting against himself. His own kingdom will not survive."

Satan falls in the name of Yehshua 
Luke 10:17 When the 72 followers came back from their trip, they were very happy. They said, “Lord, even the demons obeyed us when we used your name!”

So Let see what about Allah:
Sahih Muslim Book 004, Number 1106:
"... Allah's enemy Iblis came with a flame of fire to put it in my face, so I said three times:" I Seek refuge in Allah from thee." Then I said three times:" I curse thee with Allah's full curse." But he did not retreat (on any one of these) three occasions. ..."

So in the name of allah, - satan or devil or Iblis never got cast away. See above Mathew 12:26

Refer the links & know yourselves ! 

Jesus in History

Cornelius Tacitus (c.55-c.117 A.D.) was a Roman historian who wrote about events in Rome and Great Britain from 15-70 A.D. By his contemptuous tone, he certainly was no friend of Christianity. In Annals 15:44 he wrote: "…But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration [fire of Rome] was the result of an order [of the Emperor]. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired…."
Tacitus in Histories book 5 also discusses in detail how various Roman legions, the 5th, 10th, 15th, 12th and some men from the 18th and 3rd put down the revolt in Judea and destroyed Jerusalem.
Quotes of Tacitus are takes from The Annals and The Histories by P. Cornelius Tacitus, Encyclopedia Britannica, Inc. 1952. 

Mara Bar-Serapion was an ordinary Syrian man who wrote a letter to his son, Serapion, sometime after 73 A.D. He encourages him to emulate the wise men of history who died for what they believed in, such as Socrates, Pythagoras, and the wise King the Jews executed. This document is in the British Museum, and F.F. Bruce mentions this in The New Testament Documents : Are They Reliable. 

Josephus was a Jewish scholar, born 37/38 A.D., who wrote positively about Christ. There are two versions of this passage; the shorter 10th century Arabic and the longer Latin. The briefer Arabic version is generally thought to be the more correct one. But whichever version is correct, this is a testimony of the existence and crucifixion of Christ. See the next question for more discussion on this. 

Lucian of Samosata, (also called Lucian the Greek) second century satirist, wrote about Christ, "…the man who was crucified in Palestine because he introduced this new cult into the world….Furthermore, their first lawgiver persuaded them that they were all brothers one of another after they have transgressed once for all by denying the Greek gods and by worshipping that crucified sophist himself and living under his laws." (The Passing Peregrinus -also called The Death of Peregrine 11-13) (quoted from Evidence That Demands a Verdict vol. 1 p.82.)
 
Clement of Rome was a Christian bishop who wrote to the Corinthian church, basically asking them why they were not obeying what Paul wrote 50 years earlier. Clement’s letter was written in 97/98 A.D..
 
Pliny the Younger was a governor of Bithynia who killed many Christians for their faith. He wrote Emperor Trajan in 112 A.D. asking if he should continue to kill the men, women, and children simply for not worshipping a statue of the Emperor. Pliny says of Christians, "they affirmed, however, that the whole of their guilt, or their error, was, that they were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a god, and bound themselves to a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft, adultery, never to falsify their word, not to deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up. Epistles 10.96. (quoted from Evidence that Demands a Verdict vol. 1 p.83.) Besides this, Pliny also gives us information on the Essenes.
 
Papias was another bishop who was a disciple of John the apostle. He wrote many volumes, somewhere between 110 to 130 A.D. Unfortunately his writings have been lost, except for a short description by Eusebius of Caesarea (writing around 325 A.D.) Eusebius tells us that among other things, Papias says that the Gospel of Matthew was first written in Hebrew, Mark was the interpreter of Peter, and that Papias taught premillennialism. (Eusebius was an amillennialist.)
Ignatius was a disciple of John the Apostle. He wrote letters to many churches, and died either 107 or 116 A.D. under Emperor Trajan.
Polycarp bishop of Smyrna, was a Christian martyr and disciple of Ignatius who spoke of Christ. He died c.163 A.D.
Irenaeus, bishop of Lyon (in France), was a disciple of Polycarp, and a martyr who lived from 120/140-202 A.D. He wrote a long work against heresies of this time from 182-188 A.D..
The Didache (or Teaching of the Twelve Apostles) was an anonymous church manual, of uncertain date, probably written before 125 A.D.
Justin Martyr was a Greek philosopher who was born either 110 or 114 A.D. He converted around 138 and according to Him his First Apology was 150 years after Christ was born. In his first and second apologies, and his Dialogue with Trypho the Jew, Justin he talks of Jesus being God. The Chronicon Paschale tells us he was martyred for his faith in 165 A.D.
Suetonius, the Roman historian and court official who wrote about 120 A.D., says "As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus (another spelling of Christus, i.e. Christ], he expelled them from Rome. Life of Claudius 25.4 (Quoted from Evidence that Demands a Verdict volume 1 p.83.)
 
Theophilus, bishop of Antioch was the first writer we know of to use a Greek term to mean Trinity (Triad) in To Autolycus book 2 ch.15 p.101. He wrote between 168 and 181/188 A.D.
 
Clement of Alexandria, not to be confused with the earlier Clement of Rome, lived from 193-217/220 A.D. He wrote extensively, including a hymn to Christ and a major work called The Miscellanies.
 
Hippolytus wrote from 225-235/6 A.D. and wrote The Refutation of All Heresies. Hippolytus was a disciple of Irenaeus.
 
Tatian lived from 110-172 A.D. and wrote a harmony of the gospels, containing about 79% of the verses in the gospels. Unfortunately he later left the faith and joining the Encratites, a Gnostic heresy.
 
Jewish Talmuds refer to Jesus in a number of places. See Evidence That Demands a Verdict volume 1 p.85-87 for quotes from the Babylonian Talmud, Tol’doth Yeshu, Barailu, The Amoa ‘Ulla’, Yeb. IV 3, and Baraita. See also Tractate Sanhedrin.
 
Phlegon was a Greek writer from Caria and freed slave of the Emperor Hadrian. He wrote soon after 137 A.D. that in the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad [33 A.D.] there was "the greatest eclipse of the sun" and that "it became night in the sixth hour of the day [12:00 noon] so that stars even appeared in the heavens. There was a great earthquake in Bithynia, and many things were overturned in Nicea." (quoted from The Case for Christ p.111.) The entire quote according to The Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics p.384 is: "Jesus, while alive, was of no assistance to himself, but that he arose after death and exhibited the marks of his punishment, and showed how his hands had been pierced by nails" and later "the eclipse in the time of Tiberius Caesar, in who reign Jesus appears to have been crucified, and the great earthquake which then took place" both in Origen Against Celsus book 2 ch.33 p.455 in the Ante-Nicene Fathers volume 4 and Julius Africanus Events in Persia ch.18 p.136. See also Origen Against Celsus book 2 ch.59 p.455
 
Thales (or Thallus) was a Palestinian historian referenced by Julius Africanus (writing 232-245 A.D.) Julius says about the darkness at the time of Christ, "This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun." (quoted from The Ante-Nicene Fathers volume 6 fragment 18 p.136.) The context is Julius discussing how the time from Artaxerxes’ decree to Christ’s crucifixion, fulfilled Daniel 9.
The Samaritan historian Thallus, not to be confused with the Greek philosopher Thales, was fairly well known. The following mention Thallus.
Justin Martyr’s Hortatory Address to the Greeks ch.9 p.277 mentions Thallus, Philo, Josephus, and others.
Theophilus to Autolycus ch.29 p.120 mentions Thallus, as well as the earlier Chaldean historian Berosus on p.121.
The Octavius of Minucius Felix ch.22 p.186
Tertullian’s Apology ch.19 p.33 mentions Thallus and Josephus.
Julius Africanus fragment 18 p.136.
 
The Shepherd of Hermas was an anonymous Christian work written about 160 A.D.
 
Athenagoras wrote to the Roman emperor a defense of Christianity about 177 A.D.
 
Aristides of Athens and Quadratus are also known to have written apologies defending Christianity, but we only have some of their writings preserved.
 

The Cross & Last Letter 'Tav'

The CROSS '† ' : 

CROSS is SYMBOL or SIGN given to Christians, Its the WAY of faith to Jesus. Cross is not any idol to be worshiped. It is through which Christians see Jesus & faith in him. It is Sign given by the Lord Jesus on the sort of History. Cross came in to Christians after many 100 of years, on behalf of miracles & many other Revelations to saints.

TAV - 'ת' : 

• Tav or tavis, the Last letter in Hebrew. 
• The meaning is Sign or Symbol. 
• The sign in Pictograph is ' † ' , notation is Cross, (from Historical references See Pic below )

Passover or Pesach of Israel:

The sign to put TOP & LEFT & RIGHT on the door frames 

Exodus 12:7 "Then they are to take some of the blood and put it on the sides and tops of the doorframes of the houses where they eat the lambs."

Exodus 12:12-13 “On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the Lord. The blood will be a SIGN for you on the houses where you are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.

Which was the day Exodus 12:12 specified?	On Pesach day!
What was the letter used for sign with Blood?	Tav
What will be the sign in Hebrew?	Tav
What will be the Usage of Tav 1500 BC at the time of Moses (See Pic above) ?	'†'
Which Day was the Jesus crucified?	On Pesach day!
What was the Symbol used for crucifixion?	'†'

Revelation 22:13 Jesus says: “I am the Aleph and the Tav, HaRishon (The First) and HaAcharon (The Last), HaReshit (The Beginning) and HaTachlit (The Ultimate)."

• Messiah, the Jesus is Last and Seal for Prophets from G-d (Luke 16:16).
• Last One Died on the Cross (Tav) , which is Last letter of Hebrew.
• Last Letter is then regards as the Sign of Kingdom of G-d.

Is all these correlations are just coincidence? Sorry ! can't believe all these are just coincidence! 
Left are up to you!

More reference . . .

CRUCI-FICTION of QURAN

CRUCI-FICTION of QURAN

صليب [Saleeb] = Cross

صلب [Saleeba] = Crucifixion

Cross : + , X, T [See the shapes of Cross]
Crucifixion : Can only be done on a Cross. Which acquire stretch Hands & legs , which can be nailed to the shape of cross.

Impalement:

While Impalement, cannot be called as Crucifixion, because Cross itself is not there. Impalement literally  was called as nailed, but it was not nailing the Hands & Feet.

1) Bible Crucifixion, was Perfectly describes as Hands & Feet nailed on the cross shape.
2) Romans Invented Crucifixion, on the shape of CROSS around 200 BC
3) Historical & Archaeological evidence on this punishment methods & Historical records of the same.


We can check Crucifixion, versus from Quran?

Quran 26:49 : Said (Pharaoh): "Believe ye in Him before I give you permission? surely he is your leader, who has taught you sorcery! but soon shall ye know! Be sure I will cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will cause you all to die on the cross!"

Quran 7:122-124 : "The Lord of Moses and Aaron."Said Pharaoh: "Believe ye in Him before I give you permission? Surely this is a trick which ye have planned in the city to drive out its people: but soon shall ye know (the consequences)."Be sure I will cut off your hands and your feet on apposite sides, and I will cause you all to die on the cross."

Quran 20:71: (Pharaoh) said: "Believe ye in Him before I give you permission? Surely this must be your leader, who has taught you magic! be sure I will cut off your hands and feet on opposite sides, and I will have you crucified on trunks of palm-trees: so shall ye know for certain, which of us can give the more severe and the more lasting punishment!"


See the above versus, at the time of Moses & Aron, nearly 1500 BC, Pharaoh was talking about which crucifixion (Saleeba).

Cross & Crucifixion was invented by Romans at 200 BC, nearly 1300 Years after time of Moses.

Also Pharaoh never used the punishment method called crucifixion. As we saw the meaning & its root word in arabic[saleeb=cross], it cannot be a substitute for Impalement [which was used as punishment by Pharaoh,   see Impalement], also Pharaoh  describes "your hands and feet on opposite sides, and I will have you crucified on trunks of palm-trees"- which itself states that cross shaped, not on Spear.

History Versus Quran, where history shows Quran is wrong.

So this is a CLEAR CUT evidence of Historical contradiction on Quran & Crucifixion.

Now it is made clear that Muslims taught on Crucifixion by Quran was the real CRUCI-FICTION.